13270: Why You Might Be Insulted By My Coaching

Hey there, hero!

I ran across a quote by psychiatrist Thomas Szasz that called out a huge difference in how feedback/criticism/adjustments land with kids…as opposed to how that can land with adults.

And it comes down to what he called “…the willingness to suffer an injury to one’s self-esteem.”

Adults don’t like to be questioned about their choices.

Kids? They usually don’t give a rat. They’re used to being guided by adults, and don’t know what they don’t know.

So…some advice in this episode about how to handle feedback from a coach, and not feel like you’ve been insulted.

And how DO you feel when you get feedback from a trainer/coach/consultant/teacher? Let me know in the comments below.

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  1. For me, it depends largely on how the critique or direction is given. If in a way that is clearly meant to be belittling or demeaning, then yes, I will not take it well. Otherwise, I hire a coach for what they can do for me—and fire them summarily if their ego gets in the way of that! I’ve done it more than once!

  2. Thank you!! Sometimes when I know I didn’t hit the mark it’s hard to quiet all the whys and just move forward with what needs to be adjusted.

  3. David,
    I prefer to listen to coaching as you said “being guided”. That’s is how I feel when receiving coaching. When it comes to VO, I don’t know what I don’t know, so I rely on my coaches to guide me in a different direction or two or three. That is how I learn.

  4. OMG!!

    I laughed all the way through the intro. AHHAHahahahahahaha!!

    One of the best learning experiences I have ever had (and still have) is to sit in your classes and listen/watch as you give notes and direction to other students. Their reactions and understanding, or total lack thereof, can be more insightful and/or more entertaining than the lessons themselves.

    I think the most important thing I have learned from you is how to appreciate and take notes and direction with grace and gratitude.

    Thank you

  5. There are all sorts of factors that play into this. How the feedback is presented makes all the difference. Tone of voice, inflection, word choice, body language (if in person), all play a role, as well as the level of self-esteem and insecurities of the person receiving the feedback. I once described a discussion between you and I to another VO Heroes pro and they asked me, “Did he give you some sass?” I very much got the impression that they were familiar with you occasionally coming across as a little….sassy, but we know that you are only interested in helping us to be the best voice actors we can be 🙂

  6. Yes! “Takes criticism well” is one of the best compliments ever. This is all in line with author Nicholeen Peck’s 4 Basic Rules – how to accept a “no” answer. Powerful. Of course it’s harder to do when the criticism is done rudely, but the value in how to respond is just as important.

  7. I look on vocal guidance as indicating a recognition that I have the ability to improve on my initial period. For me, a “that’s fine, thank you” means it’s not good enough but represents my limit. You never stop learning

  8. There is a book called the Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom by Don Miguel Ruiz. (the audiobook is narrated by Peter Coyote). One of the 4 is: Don’t take anything personally!
    My brother gave this audiobook to me years ago and it makes so much sense to me. As a performer, singer, dancer, actor, narrator – I love to learn! Rehearsals and feedback are essential to me. When I became the Operations Manager for a privately owned 8 screen movie theatre in 2000, I was trained by a gentleman who owned 2 movie theatres. He was a wealth of information, sometimes sarcastic, sometimes funny; I loved learning from him. At our last session I thanked him and told him it was fun to learn all these new things. He said: “Odd, most people your age don’t like to learn.” My thought was but that’s why I’m alive. Life is all about learning and growing.
    Admittedly, in the realm of performing I am more open to critique then when I am in charge and someone who doesn’t know what I know tries to thwart my training, I still need to work on that.
    Thank you for the perspectives you share, David. They help me grow as a human being.