0039: The 3 Biggest Fears We Have When Starting Something New (And How To Kill Them)

well hey there hero you know whenever you start something brand spanking new there is bound to be a feeling of uncertainty of doubt of fear in fact there’s likely going to be more than your average amount of fear when you’re starting something really big that’s really new to you really risky in your mind and this past weekend i took some time to go online and do a facebook live about the three biggest fears that we have and how to vanquish them especially when we’re starting something new and i got some emails from people saying hey you really should make this a podcast episode so i i have done so so here it is in its entirety uh the three biggest fears we have when starting something new and how to kill them how to destroy them in this episode of the vo heroes podcast well hey there hero it’s david h lawrence the 17th thank you so much for joining me today um i wanted to spend some time talking about fear fear is one of the most debilitating things we experience it can stop us from getting what we want it can get us things we don’t want and when we’re just about to make a decision on changing something minor or major in our lives fear can be a real mitigating factor it can you know give us some some awesome uh moments to pause and think about things and it can also take that a little bit too far to the point where we start to experience inaction and uh i’ve had a lot of people who have asked me a lot of questions all week long as i’ve been talking about the new vo heroes pro program that seemed to revolve around fear um i’m an old person i’m not saying that about myself i am an old person but i’m saying i got messages from people saying i’m old you know can i even do this um i’m a woman are there any jobs for women i’m fearful there’s nothing there uh my voice isn’t good enough my i’m i’m fearful that my voice isn’t good enough and all of these fall into one of three different categories that um

that give us this this this pause this this uh this moment of hesitation and in some cases completely paralyze us uh before we get started um if you want to just say hello tell me where you’re watching from uh tell me who you are uh and maybe even tell me what your biggest fear is i don’t know we’re gonna get to the three biggest fears and i’m not gonna leave you just hanging with like here you go there’s the three biggest fears best of luck to you but i’m also going to show you three simple ways to address those fears and hopefully minimize or completely eliminate those fears today is the final day of registration for vo heroes pro and it’s a big commitment it’s a big change it’s a big statement a big bold statement make if you join us because you’re saying i’m committed i’m going to do this i’m not just going to check this off on my bucket list this is going to be something that is going to make a big difference so uh when you do something that big there is always this feeling of am i doing the right thing am i making the biggest mistake of my life am i spending way too much money what am i gonna get i don’t think i’m gonna get what it’s worth so what i’d like to do is uh i’d like to share my screen it’s a little bit harder to share your screen on um on stream yard than it is on zoom but i’ll do my best all right you should be able to see my my my screen now it’s dark it’s black it’s blue it’s blank but it will be filled shortly and what i want to talk to you about today is our three biggest fears and there are plenty of studies about bravery and overcoming fear and setting aside fear and you know fear fear acts as a as a safety valve fear acts as a as a protective uh you know sort of preventative against doing stupid stuff but the big three cover the waterfront in terms of any of the individual fears that we may have when i mentioned earlier the fear of being too old or being the wrong gender or not having a beautiful voice all of those fall into one or more of these categories and the first one is that we have a fear of the unknown this is a natural common constant fear that we have when you i mean you’re driving your car you know in a in a different part of town than you’ve ever been in before and i’m not saying a dangerous part of town just an odd unfamiliar part of town and you’ll find yourself turning down the radio because you don’t want to be distracted by the noise

you’ll find yourself scanning constantly because where you are familiar with things where the things are known you know you know where the dangers might be coming from but here you don’t and so you’re constantly scanning we have this fear of not having a knowledge base that allows us to operate safely and when it comes to making a change in our lives oh my gosh where do you start with how many unknowns there are i mean you know take what i’ve been doing this past week and that’s providing the opportunity for people to register for my course my program my training program you don’t know what the courses are like although if you took my free course on on mastering homebase voiceover you have a pretty good idea

you don’t know what the resources are that you get you don’t know what the community is like you don’t know what the time commitment might be um you don’t know if you’re going to be good enough to take care of all the things that you need to take care of just like you may have had the fear of the unknown when you first started fifth grade or you first started a new job or you went on a first date the fear of the unknown can make people stop and go hmm you know maybe i’ll just stay home and i’ll make some macaroni and cheese and i’ll watch law and order what do you think about that let’s do that that’s a lot safer right because in our lives when we’re faced with fear we have choices two of the biggest choices are fighting or flying fleeing flight fight or flight there’s there’s a couple of variations on that that i won’t use on a sunday but the fear of the unknown is one of the most uh common things that we experience um the second biggest fear that we have is we have a fear of failure say we overcome that first fear of the of the unknown we don’t know what’s going to happen we don’t know what’s going on but okay we’re going to give it a shot then you start thinking to yourself i’m going to fail i’m not gonna be able to do this and usually that happens right before you start right before you take that first step you get this fear of failure and again totally natural because you don’t know what’s coming and you may be asked to do some things that you don’t feel qualified to do you may be asked to push yourself and you may end up not reaching the goal that you want because you’re not all that good at what you’re being asked to do and the funny thing is is that stretching yourself like that and failing is actually really really valuable because it shows you where you need to work on things or it shows you what not to do right so having a fear of the unknown and having a fear of failure and as it says under the the the title there number three might just surprise you uh number three is not the fear of the unknown not the fear of failure but the fear of something that you would think would be celebratory something that you think would be awesome and that is we actually have a fear of success

say we are good enough to do these things we are able to handle things that we’re not aware of yet the unknown about things and we actually excel at what we do well now what does that mean does that mean i’m stuck i have to do this for the rest of my life does this mean does this mean that you know all the rules are going to change yeah it does and that can bring real fear into people’s lives if they actually do well at something well now there’s no excuse what if i fail in the future what if people start to consider me an expert and start coming at me and asking me questions about what i’m doing you know the fear of success is something that has been looked at as kind of that poor step child fear you know based on fear of the unknown and fear of failure but it’s becoming more and more and more likely that you will face this as you acquire skills and as you acquire familiarity with new situations those top three fears can be debilitating and that number three that number three is often the one that’s the most hidden the most uh you know unfamiliar the most uh the least expected really a fear of success you know especially when you start to have some early wins it’s like wow i really could be good at this what does this mean what what is this going to do and what’s going to change in my life right so much so that there is a a quote that is often misattributed to nelson mandela but it’s actually a quote from a book written by marianne williamson and it’s a quote that talks about the fear of success and here’s what it says our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure it is our light not our darkness that most frightens us we ask ourselves who am i to be brilliant gorgeous talented fabulous

actually who are you not to be you’re playing small doesn’t serve the world and that was written by marianne williamson in her book a return to love i’m going to pause my sharing here for just a second and i want to i want to give you the opportunity to talk about these things with me via the chat so below this video tell me what your thoughts are about this so far we have a small group today if you want to share this with your friends and let them know what’s going on if you want to uh you know give me a like give me a clap give me a follow um you know thank you masato i appreciate that very much uh and thank you mark i appreciate you saying uh it’s a surprise to see me well it’s not that early here what is it a little past 11 on the west coast of america um masato has a question out of these fears how will you and your coaches help your students move past them well i’m not even going to wait until you you’ve joined vo heroes pro thank you for doing that i’m not even going to wait until uh you start taking your courses but you’ll see as you already have that the courses in vo heroes pro uh are designed to start with the basics layer more complicated and more intricate things on top of it the courses themselves are built that way but the entire curriculum is built that way as well giving you the basics first and then adding those things that fill in the gaps around those so that’s one thing and then also you’re going to find that the community itself the coach is for sure me for sure but the community itself is really supportive and they share with you the notions of that fear and when we get into the rest of the the very short slide set that i have for you this morning uh when you get to uh vanquishing those fears killing those fears destroying those fears let me use a football analogy tackling and uh and uh and you know uh three and out those fears right uh you’re gonna find that we’ve built the entire curriculum around that so um i’m trying to imagine

what life would be like if we didn’t have fear and i’m trying to imagine that only because fear is actually useful it stops us from doing things that are stupid at least for a moment you know that’s the whole point when you go back to uh you know less developed times caveman times fear was an important tool because a lot about the world was unknown now we know a lot more about the world than we did then but then you know i mean you can only imagine what it was like as a nomad going to a new part of the world a new part of even the continent that you were on what about the first time people saw a change in weather or a change in uh the the environment or a change in geographical location going from arid to the sea oh my what is this big thing that’s blue and wet right so everything contained some aspect of fear to give you pause and say okay let’s let’s let’s take a look at this before we do anything rash let’s take a look at this let’s see what’s going on right and you would watch other people

do things that you were considering doing and if it was a failure that they ended up engaging in well that gave you even more fear it’s like okay is this what i really want to do they didn’t do so well with that this is what i want to do so remember the three big fears fear of the unknown fear of uh failure and actually fear of being successful and i want to go back to our slides for just a moment and uh move from this quote from marianne williamson to actually vanquishing these fears so we know what the top three fears are and they’re very big broad categories the actual thing that you think you’re afraid of that’s valid but you’re likely able to put that in one of those three buckets you know are there any jobs for women well that’s a fear of the unknown it’s not necessarily a fear of failure because you haven’t even done anything yet but it may be a failure of opportunity but it’s also a failure of success oh there are opportunities for women oh now well now i’m i’ve got one less excuse to move forward and do what i want to do and if voiceover is what you want to do the reason i’m here today is to talk about these fears and how they relate to uh this moment of moving forward and really addressing the the joy and the excitement and the yearning that you have to be a voice over talent i love watching people blossom overcoming these fears and really succeeding and i get it when people start feeling these fears after having some moments of success okay well that’s that but you know okay i set up my microphone but now i gotta actually do a commercial now i actually have to do an audition now i have to actually edit an audio book you know that’s i you know i i i can’t tell you how many fears i have around that so let’s talk about some ways to vanquish these big fears now these are things that when i share them with you what i don’t want you to do is go oh yeah i knew that because if you knew that you’d use them and maybe you do but if these are something that you go oh right by the way i knew that i’ve reminded you of something that may not pop into your head the moment that you’re facing a fear so just bear with me have an open mind and let me take you down this path these are three things that you can always do to take a look at vanquishing a fear of destroying a fear and the first one is to do this question your assumptions and do your best to get out of the silo now what do i mean by that well first of all when you’re looking at fear and you don’t have enough information about the situation that you’re faced with you start to go back to what you think is right or what you’ve been told is right or what you’ve heard on the internet is right and so you have a set of assumptions you know i’m older that must necessarily be a bad thing when it comes to voice over i mean i’m just assuming that’s the case right that’s the case right well no it’s not right the advantage that someone who’s older has over someone who’s younger is this incredible amount of experience in life that they’ve had the ability to draw on their past whereas somebody who’s young and beautiful and uh an influencer on instagram you know they’ve got that to rely on i don’t know how many times in the last couple of weeks i’ve heard people say something like hey kids this was that right and when you’re old like i am you get to draw on those things i i always say to people man if i had to do all over again i’d come out to la a lot faster a lot sooner i would have overcome my fear of going out into the unknown and my fear of failure and whatever fear of success that i may have had and come here in the 80s when i was 20 and i would have i would have changed that a little bit but then i think to myself well if you’d done that david who knows what your path in life would have been you’re assuming that it would have been better you’re assuming so much but you know your life wasn’t hadn’t happened yet so all the things that helped you succeed when you moved out here in the early 2000s well those maybe wouldn’t have happened right so when you’re beginning to base your judgment on a moment of fear and you start to base your judgment on what you think is right question that question your assumptions and what i mean by get out of the silo is that when we start to assume things we want those things to be reliable we want those things to be strong and so we begin to perhaps suffer from something called confirmation bias if someone tells us something that makes sense well then it must be true and we tend to position ourselves around people that offer things that we think are true and seem to be correct and we start to form this group in this silo that prevents us from getting any sort of input or alternate opinions or other ways of doing things from outside the silo i’ve got a situation going on right now where somebody in one of the audiobook uh groups that i’m in here on facebook is hell bent to make himself correct and me wrong about a particular aspect of voiceover i i i’m happy to just simply disagree but this person is determined to prove that he’s right and i’m wrong because in his silo he says makes sense to him what he says is provable and the only possible way to go and it’s very rare that there’s only one possible way to go with anything but if you’re in that silo you’re being reinforced by all those people around you and maybe your assumptions are being supported even if they’re not the best path to take so just take a moment as you face something and question what you’re thinking about that moment that moment of fear the fear of the unknown could have hundreds of assumptions associated with it and that silo that you’re in could be deafening in terms of the volume right so question your assumptions and get out of your silo that’s going to help you only because it’s going to give you a moment to say is that really true is that something that i know to be fact or is that assumption that i’ve made something that somebody just told me and maybe i trust that person or maybe i i i value that person’s success their success so they must know what they’re talking about so question your assumption remember that moment of trust because we’re going to come back to that so question your assumptions and get out of the silo number two

do your research in a way that is real research not just looking for things you agree with solid open to the possibilities research is not going online or talking to your friends and only waiting until you find someone who agrees with those assumptions in number one or live in the silo with you in number one it is looking at all the options what does this faction of people say what does that faction of people say and not just politically or emotionally looking at something and immediately tossing it out if it doesn’t make sense to you but really thinking to yourself could this be a possibility could this be something that actually makes a difference as i’m looking at this now i’m going to stop for a moment and i’m going to say to you i can’t see if you’re commenting right now because i’m my my screen is is uh is shared with my my deck i don’t know how this is landing for you but i can tell you that this can happen as you approach a moment of fear in a blink of an eye in some cases you’re going back through the catalog in your head of things that you’ve already researched that you’ve already taken a look at and thinking hmm i wonder if this works but number two is about expanding the reach of your research scientists set up a hypothesis right they say we think this is what’s going to happen we think this is why what we’re researching happens they set up a hypothesis and then they don’t try to guide their experiment toward confirming their hypothesis they simply create an experiment that either gives them results that match their hypothesis or give them results that don’t match their hypothesis and if they get results that don’t match their hypothesis they’re scientists they’re not politicians they’re not uh they’re not uh arrogant and and deciding okay well that didn’t match so that must mean my experiment was wrong it may not be it may be that what you find doesn’t agree with what you assumed and if you can be open to that there’s a very good chance that once you find the things that you can rely on you can understand you can make sense of despite what your peers in the silo may be saying you can use that to assuage and vanquish your fears

and we’re artists so we have this inner thing about being different about stepping out there’s a there’s a phrase that i use every month when we do our accountability meetings with vo heroes where we talk about your business we talk about the technology we talk about your mindset and by the way this is all about mindset right we we have what are called thought starters and one of the thought starters one month that i used was remember you weren’t born to fit in you were born to stand out and you know this you spent your whole life being different you’ve spent your whole life being that kid and that guy or that woman you’ve spent your whole life marching to the beat of a different drummer maybe it’s slightly different maybe it’s really different but you

are an outlier because you’re an artist you wouldn’t be here if you weren’t so think about the idea that you could do solid open to anything open to the possibilities just let me know what’s going on research from sources that you can trust from sources that make sense and let that be a guide towards potentially lessening lowering ameliorating or completely getting rid of your fear and then number three and this is somewhat difficult because i’ve mentioned it a couple of times the the difficult part is knowing who this might be and that is consult with someone you trust doing this on your own doing anything that is causing fear on your own is the most difficult path to follow but consulting with someone you trust and i have people who consult with me and my coaches all the time because we’ve earned their trust we have said here’s what we think here’s how we demonstrate why it works and this is why we teach what we do what are your thoughts we look at how people have a life and want to live that life with voice over as part of that life and we help them achieve that and we do so in a way that doesn’t cost them a lot of money that is asynchronous meaning they can study with us whenever they want they can take their their uh monthly workouts at many many different times of day and days of the week and with different coaches

we do our best to not only build that trust but maintain that trust all throughout the process and if you’ve seen the the video on our registration page over at voheros.com 2021 if you’ve seen uh the the video there and watched some of our past and current vo heroes pros talk about how we teach what we teach how we support them and so on the one message that seems to come through all the way through that montage of people is finding someone they can trust when you do that you can talk about your assumptions and you can say hey are we in an echo chamber here are we in a silo like is there other things out there that we should know about that might take care of this you know have you done any research what do you do in these situations why do you do what you do in these situations so questioning your assumptions getting out of the silo doing solid open to possibilities research and consulting with someone you trust these are things that i think cover 90 of the fears that you might have um masado says ha i stand out like a sore thumb yeah well you know i i remember when i was uh a kid uh this would happen to me all the time and it kind of gave me a little bit of a complex people would say why are you like this why are you doing this why do you why do you think that way and it kind of gave me uh you know a bit of pause from time to time like why am i like this why do i sit in my bedroom and listen to george carlin records and try and imitate george carlin’s best lines you know why am i doing this why did i sit in front of the television on the floor watching a movie with jackie gleason who had no lines because he was playing a death mute why did that movie gijo make me cry and make me laugh and why did i notice that that was happening rather than just being entertained by it that was one of the first things that made me realize that i was drawn to the arts drawn to the performing arts um so yeah we step out mark ballou says this a regular sunday thing for you didn’t know just saw a notification on my phone i’m a longtime vo actor reinventing my career after long hiatus and love what you offer just started your five part series the other day in another life i was your dga trainee on heroes really really so i remember andre was a dj trainee on the very first episode that i did andre who played uh the guy with the voids the the villain with the voids he and i had had done uh some other things together and um yeah so that’s great that’s fantastic no it is not a regular sunday morning thing for me i’m doing this very specifically bald-faced because today is the last registration day of vo heroes pro for 2021 and this year we’re doing something different and this year tonight at midnight when registration stops you have about you know 12 plus hours to do it if you want to join us it goes away and it doesn’t come back until september of 2022 previously i would you know just let people join whenever they wanted and i realized how much work that was for me whereas now me and my team were concentrated on getting everybody in uh you get economies of scale when you’re matriculating people as a group and i just want to concentrate on the cohort the the students that show up now and become part of the course now i want to concentrate on them and not be distracted by people joining and having to catch them up and like it’s it’s it’s it’s distracting and so this year it all goes away and people have said all throughout the week i’m fearful that i won’t be successful i will be successful i don’t know what to expect a lot of specific fears about failure about not being prepared not being able to get prepared things like that so that’s what uh that’s why i’m here um so uh yeah that’s that’s the deal there let’s see what else we’ve got here all right i don’t think there’s anything else um uh masato says it’s fun being just a little quirky yeah so it’s interesting because masada i’m going to ask you a question if i could get some permission from you and i know there’s a delay between when i start talking and when you hear it um but before you joined you sent me an email that really made it clear how you had been mistreated in the past and how you were fearful of uh of putting your trust in in somebody again and it was indicative of the kinds of emails that i’ve been getting from people uh in the past and i’m wondering if i could share a little bit more detail not mentioning names or anything like that and i see your thumbs up but i don’t think that’s for what i’m asking now i just want to share a little bit about what i said and if you mind if i do that so i’ll wait for you to say it’s okay to go ahead and do that i’m not going to you know give any details or anything but i want to talk about what you asked and and how i responded so if you okay masada said that’s fine okay so he sent a note to me saying why for all intents and purposes why should i study with you what do you have that this group over here that ripped me off before has that’s different you know tell me why i should study with you and in a way kind of saying sell yourself to me and my response was knowing that this was fear talking this was fear of the unknown this was fear of wasting money this was fear of wasting time and effort and energy this was uh you know i’m not going to make that same mistake again you know the first f’s on you the second f’s on me if you know that phrase right and i could sense that in what he said and my answer to him wasn’t well we do this and we do that and blah blah blah my answer to him was i’m not going to carry the baggage that somebody else has handed you

i don’t sell myself i don’t beg people to be part of what i do i demonstrate what i do as i did this past week as as uh mark had noted uh you know i demonstrate what i do in terms of how i how i teach what i teach the the methods that i that i created and that i i use when i teach and that’s it i don’t want any but i want i don’t want anybody to be like groucho marx i don’t want anybody be to be a member of my club that doesn’t want to be in the club right and it’s a slightly mangled version of what he said he said i don’t want to be a member of a club that would have me but what i don’t want to do is say oh you really should join our club because no matter what you’re going to fit in just great and we’re so different from all these other people i have no idea what happened to you masato or to anybody who’s watching this either live or on a replay who have been mistreated who have been uh you know dealt with by people that you couldn’t trust or who violated your trust i’m hoping that when you see me demonstrate what i do as masato has because he’s one of our new vo heroes pros that it’s a pretty clear indication that you can consider what i have to say and you know question your assumptions because there’s a lot of people who have looked at how i teach and what i teach and they go wow this just isn’t this isn’t what other people say are you full of it or are you just like you know a different approach to things and you know i i think the proof is in the pudding i use everything that i teach in my voiceover career every single day and when i find something new that works better than what i’m teaching i change what i’m teaching i did that with punch and roll and my stair step method that’s exactly what’s going on right now when i mentioned earlier that somebody’s trying to make sure that they’re right and i’m wrong it’s it’s a it’s a you know sort of a a uh a debate over the efficiency of what i teach versus the efficiency of what he teaches and my reaction is kind of like what does it matter you teach what you teach i’ll teach what i teach and we’ll help all of our students at the same time i’m not sure why it’s so important to prove that i’m wrong and you’re right or that you’re right and nobody else is right or i don’t know what the point is but i want to be open to those possibilities i want to consider other things which is what i did when i started i’m like wait a minute how long do i have to go with this really expensive microphone and fighting the fact that i’m not in a perfect recording environment what can i do to change things about that and how can i share that with others you know when i’m building demos for clients how can i remove that moment from a casting director or casting entity of some sort where they think immediately oh this is manufactured this didn’t this this couldn’t have ever aired how can i help them over that hump so that they hear your talent or my talent and not think to themselves this was mechanically created even though it was some of my clients do have what are called portfolio demos where they’ve had so much stuff that’s on the air that we’ve taken pieces of that and put it in their demos but 99 of the demos that we create are created out of whole cloth but what we do is make them sound so natural and so authentic that it removes that moment where the casting director’s like okay what am i going to hear here am i just going to hear somebody talking over music what am i going to hear here you know we spend a lot of time making sure that we look at all the different possibilities we look at all the different options and then we share with our students those options that are the best so

i think what i’m going to do is i’m going to wrap it up here um if you have questions i’m going to give you an opportunity to put some questions in the chat uh if you’re watching on replay be sure to tag me so that i come back to this and let you know and let me just share with you uh that while you’re putting questions in if you’re putting questions in that registration for vo heroes pro which is my whole uh curriculum of courses live workouts on a monthly basis live accountability sessions on a monthly basis the equipment the gear you get the gear as part of what’s going on uh the gear that i use in my in my voice over practice uh the discussion group the community that we’ve created the labs area where we extract videos from each of the courses so that if you can’t remember how to create a profile on acx we’ve got a video for that if you can’t remember how to set your microphone so that your earbuds are balanced for when you’re recording versus when you’re playing back we have a video for that and there’s you know an incredible set of resources plus a bunch of bonuses including copies of rehearsal pro copies of audio cupcake

there’s a there’s a sort of a side course called believe which really dives deep into limiting beliefs limiting beliefs that can hold us back limiting beliefs that are mostly revolving around fear fear of the unknown fear fear of failure fear of success and so um if you want to make voiceover a part of your performance quiver or if you want to take a practice that you’re already doing in voiceover and you’re not happy with the level of success that you have and you want to see if there’s some adjustments you can make some new things you can learn some new ways to approach the workflow of voiceovers some new categories to do work in some new ways to get your mindset together vo heroes pro is for you if you have no desire to do voice over whatsoever and you’re only here because you saw me talking about fear on social media well i’m glad you’re here and hopefully it’s helped you but veo heroes pro is not for you so don’t go to voheros.com 2021 and check it out so

this is um a let me let me just see what masado says here oh my god the stair step is so helpful i’m actually really pleased i joined what i’ve learned in the last two courses have helped me remaster my audio book much more efficiently and productively than i have in the past so masada was one of the very first people to join earlier in the week

and already he’s taking courses because you can take the courses in the program anytime you want uh certainly you can take them during the day but you wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat and you don’t know how to do documentary narration and the only thing that’s going to let you go back to sleep is learning how to do documentary narration well you can take an hour and and and do that if that’s what you want to do um it’s asynchronous you can take the courses whenever you want mark says now i’m compelled to cram the five-parter so i can get a good sense of how you operate thank you for the good vo vibes uh well great thank you mark and and lovely to touch base with you after uh you being uh on heroes and working as a dga trainee that’s the director’s guild of america they have people who shadow the directors that direct episodes on television to learn the craft so that’s great all right so i don’t think there are any more questions i hope you got something out of this this morning

i hope also that if you have a fear about moving forward with something that you really think is going to make a difference in your life that you really think is going to just give you all kinds of joy and that that thing is voiceover i would love to be your guide i would love to be your mentor i would love to help you through that process and minimize the fear by presenting you with things that you can trust that may be you know outside the realm of your assumptions maybe outside your silo

but i’d like to make sure that you get the best possible support in your quest to be a satisfied and successful and profitable voice over talent i’m david h lawrence the 17th i thank you so much for watching and we’re going to end it right there leave your comments below and i’ll tag me and i’ll come back and i’ll check them out have a great sunday